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He is a little slice of heaven, isn't he? :(
Both him and his friend Blair should be hauled before the War Crimes Tribunal in the Hague .
But as leaders of First World countries, a double standard applies doesn't it?
CHILLING!!!
And incredibly sad. Just looking at the portraits...bright futures cut short.
Yeah I meant Chilling as in eerily portrayed! Very moving!
It really is:(
But on a lighter note, it's good to see you again :)
I think that you are forgetting that the war was widely supported at the start. Of course, it could be argued that the population was fed the wrong facts; however, I don't think that anyone tried to analyze the situation. It could also be said that the only reason why the American people finally decided to pay attention is because of those casualties.
Vadim Thanks for stopping by, and I agree there were many who were willing uncritically buy into the moronic propoganda being pushed by the Bush Administration at the time, but it wasn't everybody.
I still remember getting into huge arguments with friends at school who were incapable of seeing through the shit-storm of deceit. I remember my older brother going through the roof as he argued with his friends about the lies and bloodlust of Bush and Cheney.
Most of my friends and I were well aware that Americans were being manipulated. Remember the aluminum tubes? in 2002 State and Energy Department officials called out he Administration on the falsehood of those claims long before the war began. But Bush, Rice, Cheney and crew continued to say that they were definitely part of an Iraqi nuclear program. They knew they were not and couldn't have been used for centrifuges even if the Iraqi's had wanted to use them for that purpose (which they didn't). I remember whispers of arm twisting to get a reluctant Colon Powell to testify before the U.N. He was sharply at odds with Bush and Cheney about what should be done with regard to Iraq, but in the end, he fell on his sword, and was ultimately rewarded for his effort by being cut out of the Bush loop and eventually dismissed.
There's some hugely revisionist history now being foisted upon the American public by the Bushies and their mouth-breathing sycophantic ass-licking followers. And it's gotten worse since that that spineless lump McClellan came out with his book.
So let me be clear here--There was huge huge!!! opposition at the time-including demonstrations and journalistic efforts to wake the mindless dumbass American masses up. There was a lot of evidence floating around calling the veracity of the Bush claims into question. And..AND!..There were predictions at the time that Iraq would become a Vietnam-like quagmire, to which Cheney et al responded that we would be greeted as liberators. No, there definitely was some serious analysis and opposition going on before the war alright. Unfortunately people then and today were/are just intellectually lazy, and prefer not to deal with any state of cognitive dissonance created by their continued complicity in creating the environment that led to war in Iraq. What's worse, is that now Bush/Cheney/McSame are manufacturing a similarly ginned up set of facts to justify taking the next step (U.S./Israeli war with Iran) in a publicly acknowledged (April 10 2003 USA Today) Bush Admin/NeCon plan to TOPPLE the governments of Syria, Iran, Saudi Arabia and Egyp and replace them with pro=West, regimes with which oil deals and security pacts could be made.
This stuff really gets me hot (and not in the good way). Claims that everyone agreed on the same intelligence and was on the same page are absolutely untrue.
Remember Scott Ritter? He made all the media rounds trying to get the message out. Let me assure you your concerns about my memory are not justified here. I remember alright.
Unfortunately the American Public been absolutely brainwashed into adopting a false history of the lead up to war, and how much controversy there actually was surrounding it. It's not difficult to pinpoint the guilty parties in propagating the myth of unanimity here--it continues to be the result of unholy synergy of the acquiescent/lazy media, the wRong Wing talk show scum, and and an Administration that is so pathological that I can't believe there's still 25% of the population that still approves of it's performance.
I guess I was wrong to include every American in my comment. After all, Obama constantly reminds us that he was right on day one. So I do apologize for that knee jerk reaction. Although, it has to be said that a lot of the information that we have as citizens comes from the government and it would be a mistake to dismiss everything that is being said, it is definitely hard to agree with some of the "facts" that the public was fed. I also think that it's not just the brainwashing of the Americans that helped in this, but other factors as well (I posted something on my blog on this).
I also think that McCain could invade Iran. However, I am not sure if the military could be stretched so far as to include Syria, Egypt and Saudi Arabia. Also, Saudis are in control of the oil and if they start blowing it all up, it will dwarf the 1973 oil crisis. And after the present war, I doubt if the Americans will support another one, especially on that scale. McCain is a "hawk," and, as you put it, with he help of the propaganda that is already being supplied by Washington, it is likely that a war with Iran could be waiting for us if he is elected. And if that ever happens, then a draft will be unavoidable. Iran has a population of 66 million which dwarfs the 28 of Iraq and the size of Iran will also contribute to a draft. In addition to that, the Iranians are being supplied by Russia with some of the latest tech in weaponry, and that could prove to be a disaster for the American war machine. This is ironic, since it reminds me of the Iran -contra affair of the Reagan administration, even though in that case they were trading hostages for arms, not money for arms. And with that in mind, there are also the two wars in Iraq and Afghanistan to consider. Also, I think that it is likely that a second war would escalate the American dissatisfaction with the government policy.
I like the mention of Pax Americana in that USA Today article. There is a long history of American involvement in the Middle East. American troops, for example, were called the Holy Warriors by the war department when they entered the region in the Second World War. I suppose that it hasn't changed since then. It is also ironic that American Zionists created the state of Israel in the middle of the Muslim world. So, while I personally think that the creation of that state was a mistake, we will definitely be involved in that region since both candidates are committed to the defense of Israel. So, one might argue that no matter who is elected, we could have an outbreak in the region. However, I doubt that Obama is likely to invade any country in the first 4 years of his presidency.
Also, I what do you think about Afghanistan? Was that war justified? After all, CIA was responsible for the Taliban.
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